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Post by yorkshiremouth on Apr 30, 2020 7:52:11 GMT
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Post by balddave on Apr 30, 2020 9:03:10 GMT
Thanks YM,
The optimist in me says great, the realist thinks it’s not going to happen.
I cannot envisage IF the uk government allows flights, how this can safely happen.
At the end of the day common sense must prevail, and people’s health must be everybody’s priority.
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Post by dennisn on Apr 30, 2020 9:20:46 GMT
I agree Dave. And to be honest, I’ve already had a belly full of daily updates in FaceBook.
In view of the latest tittle tattle that we are likely to end up with the highest death toll in Europe, does anybody realistically think Greece will be admitting us, or UK permitting us to go (well at least over 70s - guess who’s over 70 - hint, names begin with D and V)?
I’ll stick with September optimism for the time being, but in the absence of a vaccine I reckon it’s a strong candidate for pipe dream of the year.
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Apr 30, 2020 14:55:16 GMT
We’re booked for Kefalonia last two weeks in August.
Who knows.
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Post by cariad23 on Apr 30, 2020 14:59:09 GMT
it only needs one person on the plane to have it (may not be aware) with the aircon recirculating air and you have the potential for over 300 to be infected and ill while on holiday. I wouldnt risk it and im not over 70 or have any health issues. i don,t want to worry anyone but my neighbour works on the stock exchange, we were talking about holidays and refunds/ credit notes etc i said i had cancelled because i knew tui wouldnt be flying before 1st july and i didnt want my money tied up for a year. Also we have decided that i am not going to a tiny isand not on tourist trail next year in case something like this occurs again. i wouldnt want to stranded a ferry ride away from nearest airport/hospital. He said he looked at Tui share prices, their assets/outgoings which are over a million pounds a week, combined with huge debts they also had and they could run out of money in about 6 weeks. very worrying times, that would only leave jet2.
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Post by balddave on May 1, 2020 12:21:08 GMT
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Post by cariad23 on May 1, 2020 13:32:46 GMT
very true
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Post by yorkshiremouth on May 2, 2020 5:16:33 GMT
So, a question.
If the UK authorities say it’s safe for you to travel, and the Greek authorities let you in, do you go?
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Post by cariad23 on May 2, 2020 11:55:27 GMT
as someone said on another site,do you want to travel home in a bodybag
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Post by balddave on May 2, 2020 12:41:11 GMT
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Post by yorkshiremouth on May 3, 2020 10:15:27 GMT
as someone said on another site,do you want to travel home in a bodybag Then none of us will ever go to Skiathos again, if you're looking for 100% certainty and safety it isn't going to come. Almost every vaccine isn't a 100% guarantee, and is less effective the older you get. At the moment New Zealand had no new community cases 6 days ago. Within 2 weeks they'll be effectively coronavirus free, apart from a handful of people in intensive care. It's quite possible most European countries will be in a similar position within a few months. The virus will still be around, maybe with the authorities playing Whack-a-Mole when it pops up. In any case, I think this will be the issue. By late summer we'll all be allowed out of our homes in the UK. It'll be similar in Greece. The numbers with the virus will be the same in both countries (very low). You'll have as much chance of catching it in a cafe in your home city as you will in a taverna in Greece. Now you don't have to leave your house in the UK; no one will force you. But if you're mixing with others in the UK, what's the difference between that and mixing with others on Skiathos? That's presuming that Greece isn't letting people in from countries where the outbreak is still in full swing. I think what I'm saying is, if both the UK & Greek authorities say it's safe to go out in our respective countries, and we choose to do so, I don't see any extra risk in travelling between those countries.
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Post by yorkshiremouth on May 3, 2020 10:21:50 GMT
As my previous post, only when completely safe for both ourselves, and the people who live in Skiathos. Holidays are meant to be about relaxation and enjoyment, wearing a mask and social distancing do not equate to either ,neither do fear and stress. We need to be sure in our own minds Things are ok. I've highlighted the key phrases. Wearing a mask? I think I agree. I can't see anyone enjoying a meal, or relaxing on the beach, with a mask on. Social distancing? I think that depends what it is. If they just space the sun loungers on the beach and the tables in tavernas further apart, that wouldn't bother me. Indeed, I'd like them to keep it like that for good! But could you socially distance on Papadiamantis Street? Perhaps we'll see a mix. Masks on if you're out on the street and unable to socially distance, masks off when you're on the sun lounger, or sat at your table. As I say, there are some levels of social distancing (and possibly even a bit of mask wearing) which wouldn't spoil the holiday too much, but others where it'd no longer feel like a holiday. Anyway, can you drink Mythos through a mask? One final point, but a very important one. If the UK & Greek governments say it's safe to go, and you've paid for your holiday, won't you lose all of your money if you cancel?
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Post by kelso on May 3, 2020 10:59:28 GMT
As the old highway men would say, "your money or your life? " Bob
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Post by dennisn on May 3, 2020 11:14:20 GMT
The more discussion I see, the less I listen. As I said previously, I've had a bellyful and speculation doesn't appeal to me.
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Post by dennisn on May 3, 2020 11:17:12 GMT
As the old highway men would say, "your money or your life? " Bob Was that the Laddies, Bob?
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