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Post by cariad23 on Aug 10, 2020 13:15:55 GMT
did i dream it or did iread someone on a british flight tested positive and is in quarantine at the aria hotel
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 10, 2020 13:45:02 GMT
You didn't dream it, but at the moment it's an unsubstantiated rumour.
Which doesn't mean it's not true, but we'll have to wait.
I wonder what it's like?
Do they have a pool? If so, can you use it? What's the food like? Is there a bar?
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 10, 2020 16:08:34 GMT
Fantastic news.
New cases today down to 126, from 200 yesterday.
Greece doesn't have the same issue with under-reporting that we do in the UK on a Sunday & Monday.
7-day rolling average will be down to c.110, which is where it was last Thursday - no net increase in the average over 5 days, when it had been doubling in that time. *
I think the next day or two will be crucial. But if this improvement isn't completely wiped out by Wednesday, there'll be a pic of me & Kat having a Mythos together coming everyone's way.
* A correction, my apologies. The 7-day rolling average will be c.145, up very slightly from 138 yesterday. That's virtually a standstill after over a month of rapid daily rises.
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Post by dennisn on Aug 10, 2020 16:31:20 GMT
We arrived in Spain yesterday to visit our son and his family Have a great time, Dave and remember follically to either wear a hat, or one of those masks with lids.
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Post by dennisn on Aug 11, 2020 9:00:16 GMT
Boris Johnson's dad's villa is in Greece. Just saying... Hmmm. If I may make so bold - so what? Is he likely to be spying on Skiathos from the villa overlooking the island? Checking up on you?
The status of Boris's dad, or of Boris's senior advisor, have no bearing on lockdown, easing or anything. They are not plebs like you and me and (I'm guessing) everybody else boasting membership of this forum. We have to follow Boris's rules (as dictated by Dominic, of course), they don't. And don't be fooled by any suggestion that the rules are to protect us, because that's merely a side effect. The rules are to preserve the plebs so that they can keep the treadmills going.
You know who to vote for.
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Post by kelso on Aug 11, 2020 11:53:38 GMT
Hmmm. If I may make so bold - so what? Is he likely to be spying on Skiathos from the villa overlooking the island? Checking up on you?
We have to follow Boris's rules (as dictated by Dominic, of course), they don't. And don't be fooled by any suggestion that the rules are to protect us, because that's merely a side effect. The rules are to preserve the plebs so that they can keep the treadmills going.
You know who to vote for.
Some of us are fortunate enough to have to follow Nicola's rules. She seems to be more on the ball than the B chap!
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 11, 2020 12:04:22 GMT
Boris Johnson's dad's villa is in Greece. Just saying... Hmmm. If I may make so bold - so what? Is he likely to be spying on Skiathos from the villa overlooking the island? Checking up on you?
The status of Boris's dad, or of Boris's senior advisor, have no bearing on lockdown, easing or anything. They are not plebs like you and me and (I'm guessing) everybody else boasting membership of this forum. I think you missed the (humorous) point. Boris' dad doesn't live in the villa. He rents it out. He was in the papers for going to Greece when it wasn't allowed, but claimed he was exempt, as he was going for business reasons which couldn't be done from home - readying the villa for guests. In other words, Boris' family have a vested interest in not closing down Greece to UK residents.
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Post by dennisn on Aug 11, 2020 21:44:56 GMT
Stanley Covid-prepped his Villa whilst wearing his swimming cozzie. Presumably lived in a tent whilst prepping.
Kelso is the lucky one ruled by Nicola.
Dominic is the other lucky one, holding the puppet strings.
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Post by dennisn on Aug 12, 2020 6:32:48 GMT
I think you missed the (humorous) point. In other words, Boris' family have a vested interest in not closing down Greece to UK residents. Actually, I think you missed MY point. Which is that they don't have vested interests in anything other than their own well-being, and any outside events or circumstances are not fashioned by them to favour their interests - such events or circumstances pass them by like water off a duck's back. Lockdown did not mean Dominic couldn't go to Durham, it just made him come up with some plausible reason. The ban on direct flights to Greece didn't stop Stanley from going, it just made him come up with a different method of going there and come up with a plausible reason for doing so. Like I said, those bans and lockdowns etc were put in place to keep the plebs pedalling the treadmills!
So to come to a personal to you statement :- Do NOT place reliance on Boris' family vested interests to protect your holiday in Skiathos, because they don't need Greece to stay open, they'll go there if they want to.
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 12, 2020 10:49:00 GMT
I think you missed the (humorous) point. In other words, Boris' family have a vested interest in not closing down Greece to UK residents. Do NOT place reliance on Boris' family vested interests to protect your holiday in Skiathos, because they don't need Greece to stay open, they'll go there if they want to.
I think you missed the word 'humorous'. I wasn't relying on it at all.
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 12, 2020 11:07:25 GMT
Numbers back up again yesterday, to just under 200.
It really is a rollercoaster.
I've continued to model this in a number of ways, and whichever way I do it, it comes out that we'll be hitting dangerous numbers (in other words the UK government might quarantine returnees) the weekend after next, based on what happened to Spain & Belgium.
In addition to other numbers, I've also looked at Spain and Belgium to see how long it took in between their numbers starting to rise, and then for the measures taken to have an effect. I've then applied that to the start of Greece's rise.
The result? Should start to have an impact the weekend after next. You couldn't make it up.
However, and as this is Kate's thread, I really should also note that all of my models show her being good to fly on the 19th, for two main reasons. The first is that the figures should be just below the point where Spain and Belgium were quarantined. The second is that the decisions appear to be made by the government at their Friday meeting. As the 19th is a Wednesday, things would have to be have been bad enough this coming weekend, and that's simply not on the cards.
Inevitably, the 23rd is a Sunday.
Just one more thing for now - France is big in the news. There's some typically sensationalist reporting, notably people saying that their figures doubled in a day. Whilst this is true, and the figures went up to 1,397 yesterday from 785 on Monday, it really is worth mentioning that Friday, Saturday and Sunday's figures were all higher than yesterday, before a large dip on Monday.
Nonetheless, France do appear to be rising in a very similar way to Greece, but are almost exactly 2 weeks ahead (the numbers in Greece yesterday were almost identical to those in France on the 28th).
If things continue, it'll be interesting to see how the UK treats France, and if/when it takes measures.
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 13, 2020 7:38:21 GMT
Very poor yesterday, new cases 262.
However, it’s been leaked that the government have changed their way of deciding whether to quarantine countries or not.
For the last few weeks it’s not been new cases, but total active cases, with the benchmark being 20 per 100,000. The initial cut off point is when a country spends 7 days above that.
Yesterday Greece was at just over 15. I expect that to go U.K. to 16 or 17 today. It’ll probably tip 20 on Saturday or Sunday. *
However, the government does appear to be showing some leeway, and it’s taken at least 10 days before they’ve pulled the plug so far.
* EDIT - Having done my post-breakfast sums, I think it'll be 16.6, and it's more likely to tip over on Sunday, or possibly Monday than Saturday.
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Post by katet on Aug 16, 2020 22:05:21 GMT
Well, I’m packing tomorrow - I’ve dithered and dallied, but had better show some faith. If quarantine comes in while I’m away, then so be it. As long as they don’t decide to bring people back early ... that would be horrid!
It seems so unfair for the islands, as there’s said to be one possible case now in Skiathos (& probably a couple more folk may be asymptomatic) but that’s well below the 20 cases per 100,000 that our government deems unacceptable. Am sure YM could work out a guesstimate on what the figure is likely to be.
I’m fairly relaxed about my personal safety. I’ll wash my hands A LOT, keep away from others and wear a mask in shops, buses & taxis. I probably won’t visit the Blind Dog and Totem this time - just stick to outdoor venues. I’m sure there’s a much higher chance of getting infected in my local Sainsbury’s!
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Post by dennisn on Aug 17, 2020 6:23:52 GMT
I agree Kate - the worst thing would be to bring you back early.
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 17, 2020 7:41:09 GMT
They’re generally pulling the plug at weekends, so you’re good to go.
Quarantine? If it happens it happens. You enjoy yourself.
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