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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 1, 2020 10:30:07 GMT
Some of the photos posted recently on FB are worrying, some folk appear to have left their brain in the UK. All social distancing seems to have gone out of the window, we’re not talking about unruly groups of youngsters but supposedly mature adults. It is an insult to the locals who have made every effort to ensure Skiathos is as safe as possible for visitors, and themselves abide by covid guidelines I haven't seen these. What are they doing? My other half commented on how packed our local looked yesterday (outside). I popped back for a look, and whilst it appeared crowded, the individual tables did seem to be correctly distanced. The truth is, if you're outside (and most bars & tavernas are either outside, or 'roof-and-no-walls') infection chances are very low indeed. The big risks are indoors, poor ventilation, over-crowded places.
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 1, 2020 10:31:03 GMT
I think the government is seriously to blame... You needn't continue, I'm in full agreement.
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Post by cariad23 on Aug 1, 2020 11:25:59 GMT
excellent blog by ian today.. How long before people on manchester flights banned, even though people from all over use manchester, i prefer to go from there to Gatwick for long haul
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Post by balddave on Aug 1, 2020 12:40:10 GMT
YM, in answer to your question ‘ what are they doing’, the photos on FB are of 5/6 people having group hugs/poses, not family members but FB boomerangers, those of the ribbon brigade.
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Post by dennisn on Aug 1, 2020 13:00:06 GMT
I don't think the odd large gathering will have changed things too much. Even in a crowd of tens of thousands there'll only have been a half dozen, each giving it to maybe 3 others. If you look at the number of new cases per day, it'll barely have touched the sides. You have to look at the ripple effect. And all those people who think it won't be them, well it will be SOME of them, who won't feel a thing until they DO feel a thing, or maybe never feel a thing! And all the people they infect won't feel a thing until they DO feel a thing or maybe never feel a thing. Et al ad infinitum.
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Post by dennisn on Aug 1, 2020 13:03:30 GMT
YM, in answer to your question ‘ what are they doing’, the photos on FB are of 5/6 people having group hugs/poses, not family members but FB boomerangers, those of the ribbon brigade. How very very true. I mean, I have a good relationship with some of them, but they really are pushing it. Y'know, they KNOW all the people they're hugging and posing with are virus free, and all those people KNOW everybody around them is virus free. Really?
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 2, 2020 7:58:18 GMT
YM, in answer to your question ‘ what are they doing’, the photos on FB are of 5/6 people having group hugs/poses, not family members but FB boomerangers, those of the ribbon brigade. The ribbon brigade? PM me if necessary.
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Post by dennisn on Aug 2, 2020 8:16:31 GMT
Ribbon brigade - those who wear/display a ribbon with the word Boomerangers. On your person or luggage. Posers. Then you recognise other Boomerangers on your travels. Obtained (if there are any left) by sending a PM to Judith Jenkins with your address. Free, but make a donation to SCWA (cats welfare).
I actually wear one on my hat and despite the numbers of people saying they’ve got them, I’ve never seen one EXCEPT once on a suitcase in JSI departures lounge.
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 2, 2020 8:45:51 GMT
I’m allergic to cats.
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Post by dennisn on Aug 2, 2020 9:11:59 GMT
I'm not allergic, I just dislike them passionately - walking or weeding by hand in the garden is a different experience where cats are concerned. However, at the time (in my innocent newbyness on Boomers FB) I thought it was a nice idea to have a unity symbol, so I got the ribbon and donated to the SCWA (cash to the captain or whoever of the Eleni boat in the old harbour, who happens to be the only person on the island to acknowledge my displaying the ribbon in my hat). I wear it always, out of a sense of defiance to all thse who don't display theirs - they say it's on their other handbag or other flipflops or some other excuse. I'm too thick! On reflection, I wear it to celebrate the fact that I still haven't been banned from it (unlike Skiathos Friends, where I lasted only a short time - maybe ShauntheMod is on that site). And I avoid conflict by not commenting about cats.
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Post by kevb on Aug 2, 2020 16:25:19 GMT
They'd better not cancel flights from Manchester! Actually it's not been too much of a rollercoaster for the Parga trip. Booked ages ago, didn't give it much thought ( never do until a few weeks prior to holiday) and I had a cheap week in Tuscany booked for June anyway. So as soon as lockdown happened I knew Tuscany was doomed but thought there might be a chance of Parga in August. Just kept an eye on things and the only thing that's been a spanner in the works has been the uncertainty with airlines not knowing they have enough takers to run all flights. In the end we've had to drop the original plan of 10 nights back to 7 but still worth going. The Parga FB page looks encouraging as 1. It looks quiet compared with photos I've seen from last year and 2. The beaches, restaurants etc appear to be taking social distancing seriously and so are the visitors. Given that area has never seen anywhere near the cases we have in the UK and that the random testing of incoming tourists doesn't seem to be generating many if indeed any positives then I'm more confident of going than I was even a month back. The airlines seem sure that their current procedures are not spreading the virus around on planes from the test results/follow ups of those returning. Second mini waves are being generated by idiotic and illegal mass gatherings in this country, hopefully these are being clamped down on and we will soon get back on the downward trend. Still miles lower than rates of infection back in April.
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Aug 2, 2020 22:39:06 GMT
I agree, largely for the same reasons.
I hope we’re not just being optimistic and succumbing to confirmation bias.
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Post by kevb on Aug 3, 2020 4:48:13 GMT
It's up to each of us to weigh up the numbers and our particular circumstances, I wouldn't dream of criticising anyone for putting off holidays this year or even next if it flares up again over the winter. Vaccines take time to produce and if the virus mutates significantly you are back to square one, it happens all the time with flu. It's always likely to be around at some level so we all have to do our own risk assessment and weigh up the odds. I'm past the mid fifty mark and mum was 78 this year so we had a lot of conversations through the lockdown period. I don't know if me being a scientist with life sciences background helped or hindered, I had to be careful not to appear to be some 'voice of authority' and push us into anything. I suppose it helped me personally that I've dealt with dangerous chemicals etc at some level all my working life and the issue of taking risk assessments and generating protocols to minimise those risks is second nature to me and it wasn't too stressful applying that approach to my everyday life but I can see how it could be for others during these strange times.
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Post by dennisn on Aug 3, 2020 7:06:41 GMT
Difficult for us. Neither of us would qualify for the description “spritely “ old folk. So this virus is dangerous and we know it. We do qualify for the description of moaners about others, regularly clucking outrage when more than one person can be seen forming an infectious crowd of two!
We are implacably convinced that lockdown was started too late (we isolated two weeks before) and that easing has been too soon. We’re almost as convinced a second wave is already developing.
I hate this virus. At my age I don’t have much leeway to give it time to become harmless. Grrrrr!
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Post by cariad23 on Aug 3, 2020 7:31:19 GMT
i;m hoping this isolation comes in for over 50;s 12 weeks off fully paid , bring it on. my step daughter is 27 and has been at home since end february shielding because of medication shes on affecting her immune system, shes a nurse. Today been told shielding over safe to return to work, but whats different covid still around shes dealing with patients luckily not in Leicester. you can go to the pub but not have your eyebrows plucked by someone in a mask and you wearing mask too. Come on Carrie sort him out, tell him not to listen to these daft advisors and use common sense instead. I have to at all these idiot parents on tv (and loving it) moaning there children upset holiday cut short, i bet they are same parents who said im not sending my child to school it isnt safe, but they put them in enclosed plane, let them play on crowded beach go in cafes you couldnt make it up. saw one set oiks the other upset having to curtail dream holiday in maguluf , its always dream holiday, maguluf really? not the sort of place anyone in their right mind would take young children ever. Stop giving these idiots airtime, my tv in danger of damage from me throwing things, when ive taken decision to not go to my beloved greece first time ever in 25 years, to ensure im still here to go next year.
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