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Post by yorkshiremouth on Feb 14, 2022 14:03:52 GMT
even if i got another booster the last one took 8 weeks to get added to nhs app! Check your app the days after your jab. If it’s not on within a week, ring 119.
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Post by cariad23 on Feb 14, 2022 15:01:59 GMT
so looks like we are ok dennis as weve had 3 , unless they change minds again
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Post by dennisn on Feb 14, 2022 21:24:46 GMT
If you’ve had 3, you’re fine no matter when you’ve had them. EDIT That’s not what I said, it’s what YM said. My efforts to trim the quote to only the pertinent piece got it slightly wrong. My confusion (and I believe Cariad’s also) is because I have seen no evidence of this. Can you provide a link to the evidence please?
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Post by cariad23 on Feb 15, 2022 5:07:41 GMT
I’ve been looking on our government travel sites and Greeces for written confirmation and can’t see it either. All seems very out of date. SL 1 always seems to know where to find these things,
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Feb 15, 2022 13:10:35 GMT
EDIT That’s not what I said, it’s what YM said. My efforts to trim the quote to only the pertinent piece got it slightly wrong. My confusion (and I believe Cariad’s also) is because I have seen no evidence of this. Can you provide a link to the evidence please? Here’s the original EU Covid Pass announcement: www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2021/11/25/eu-covid-travel-pass-expires-9-months/Note: “ …the COVID pass — called the EU Digital COVID Certificate — will only be valid for travelling across the bloc during the nine months following the last vaccine dose of the so-called “primary series”…” Then: “The executive is now assessing how long the booster shot will remain valid.” They’ve made no statement since to the contrary. The 270 day rule is the time allowed for your primary course of 2 doses to remain valid before having the booster, and they’re still looking to see if a separate time limit needs to be put in place after the booster. Indeed, the EU’s own FAQ page confirms this: ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/coronavirus-response/safe-covid-19-vaccines-europeans/eu-digital-covid-certificate_enNote: “ At this stage, the Commission does not propose a validity period for certificates issued based on booster shots. This means that the 9-month validity period should not apply to certificates issued following booster shots. It can be expected that protection from booster vaccinations may last longer than that resulting from the primary vaccination series. The Commission will closely monitor newly emerging scientific evidence on this issue. On this basis, the Commission may, at a later stage, propose if necessary to introduce a validity period also for vaccination certificates issued following a booster if necessary.” I hope that’s the evidence you require. As I noted previously, putting any such limit in place at the moment would be unworkable. No European country has yet designated a 4th dose for the population at large. Until most/all do, a time limit on the booster would effectively ban any movement between EU countries after people’s boosters had run out. That’s not going to happen. So, unless the EU decide en masse that a 4th dose is needed, there’s no time limit to the booster. If they did so, the U.K. would follow, else it would be effectively barring travel to the EU. If a decision were made to require a 4th dose, it seems pretty clear they’d give plenty of time. They’ve already stuck an extra 3 months’ grace before you require the booster by allowing 270 days. In short, you don’t currently need a 4th, and if you ever do, the U.K. government will ensure it’s there for you to have if you want it, and you’ll be given plenty of time to take it up.
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Post by dennisn on Feb 15, 2022 16:20:59 GMT
I'm sorry YM, but as we are not in the EU, I don't believe we are covered by its definitions (but might be forgiven for informed guessing that the rules for us will be similar).
Anyway, there's a new Gov UK email today saying there is a new version of Entry Requirements for Greece.
Here's what I think is the nutshell of what GovUK says (copied and pasted)
a) showing a valid vaccination certificate. There must have been at least 14 days, and not more than nine months, since the completion of your primary vaccination for COVID-19. Booster jabs are not subject to the same time restrictions.
I fancy a couple of thoughts on the above :- The items listed are all UK Gov interpretations, they don't ever quote actual Greek documentation, so beware a little. "Primary vaccination" I would interpret as the first two jabs, simply because GovUK goes on to comment about boosters. I have previously commented on the "270 days" thing which arose from quoting the Greek rule and presumably 270 days is nine 30-day months. I'm guessing that if/when the world decides that an annual jab a la flu is necessary, then your annual vaccination certificate will become standard (at a guess, you can't get an annual certificate without first going through the first, second and booster stages).
Personally, bearing in mind the Greek dependence on UK tourism, I'm betting they'll let our boosters count unless/until an annual vaccination programme becomes the norm (which surely it will).
Interestingly, FaceBook had a post from somebody asking "for a friend" what the rules would be for the unvaccinated friend. Several people posted helpful and/or irrelevant words about how they might find the rules. I posted rather bluntly to tell her unvaccinated friend not to go infecting my favourite destination and pointing out that Greece has made it law that everybody must be vaccinated so the friend won't be admitted anyway. The whole post had disappeared shortly afterwards when I went to look at the notification that my post had been liked by Phil (and I haven't been banned, warned or told off).
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Post by dennisn on Feb 15, 2022 16:53:00 GMT
Just as an extra, I recently received notification that my annual bank insurance policy is due for renewal. It comes free with my bank account and offers six items :-
Travel insurance Mobile Phone insurance
Cinema and film rental Travel service Car breakdown cover tastecard membership
After doing the renewal I have decided that next year I will look into getting different insurance, because the "free" insurance isn't free!!! Namely £18/month bank charges, £216, £75 each surcharge because we're both Elderlies, £84 surcharge for Vera's pre-existing and £94 surcharge for my pre-existing. Total almost £550 for free insurance. Gosh!!
The only use we have for it is the travel bit. Mobile phone is one only and I get a new one quite regularly anyway. We're not interested in cinema and film deals, their travel service is simply using them as travel agents for 10% discount on "selected" holiday bookings, car breakdown excludes vehicle used for carriage of goods for hire and reward (i.e. not my van, our only vehicle) and tastecard is two for one in selected restaurants which we don't visit.
Actually, although I've paid, the renewal isn't until early March, so if I can find a better deal I can cancel and get a full refund. And the renewal phone call took an hour and ten minutes on hold for a call handler!
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Post by dennisn on Feb 15, 2022 17:25:43 GMT
Goodness. Three quotes via moneysupermarket, cheapest £1142. Gosh.
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Post by cariad23 on Feb 16, 2022 7:54:23 GMT
I’m with Barclays I pay £12 for travel pack ( no longer available) then get £7 refund because I have more than 3 direct debits. Every year since age 60 reminded to tell insurance any health issues luckily none husband younger than me and no issues either I think after age 80 though cover ceases A way to go yet!
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Feb 16, 2022 10:58:10 GMT
Hi, Dennis. We aren't in the EU, but we are in the EU Digital Covid Certificate system. Effectively, this means the UK NHS app travel pass (and paper versions) are held under the same rules as the EU Digital Covid Certificate. Here's what it says at the Greek government's own website (travel requirements page): travel.gov.gr/#/I hope that clears it up. To summarise: 1 - The EU Digital Covid Certificate holds a 270 day time limit between the end of the primary course and the booster, 2 - However, it has no similar time limit for the booster, 3 - The UK, whilst not being in the EU, is in the EU Digital Covid Certificate system, 4 - This has been demonstrated by links to the official webpages of the EU Digital Covid Certificate, the Greek Government, and the UK Government. I hope that puts it to bed, now. THERE IS CURRENTLY NO TIME LIMIT ON THE BOOSTER JAB FOR ENTRY TO GREECE.
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Mar 2, 2022 15:37:33 GMT
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Post by cariad23 on Mar 3, 2022 14:02:49 GMT
Just read on Facebook no longer any need for plf to enter Greece after March 15th Great news if correct anyone else heard this? Yorkshire mouth usually has finger on pulse
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Post by dennisn on Mar 3, 2022 14:50:45 GMT
No Gov/UK email yet. No bother anyway, the Greece entry PLF was simple. The UK entry one was a pain.
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Post by yorkshiremouth on Mar 3, 2022 15:53:38 GMT
Just read on Facebook no longer any need for plf to enter Greece after March 15th Great news if correct anyone else heard this? Yorkshire mouth usually has finger on pulse This news story posted just 55 minutes ago: news.gtp.gr/2022/03/03/greece-end-plf-requirement-for-travelers/Looks legit. A few other news sites saying the same thing. Great news. Denny’s is absolutely right, it wasn’t too bad anyway, but no paperwork is always going to be better than any paperwork, no matter how simple. Just the U.K. PLF to be rid of, then it’s just down to flashing the border guard your vaccination QR code.
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Post by dennisn on Mar 4, 2022 17:12:26 GMT
GovUK Email today PLF not required from 15th March. Their information on masks still requires them and indeed says they need to be the FFP2/NR specification. We have those masks ready for late June.
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